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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: Brief description of Ashton-Tate presentation on Fullwrite
Date: 11 Dec 88 22:02:32 GMT
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Ashton-Tate came to the Seattle dBUG (Downtown Business User's Group) to
talk about their two products Full Impact (a free-format spreadsheet)
and Fullwrite Professional (their powerful, but flawed, word processor
which I use). They had some information on new features in FullWrite,
and some scheduling info. I have some complaints about their
presentation, and a personal gripe with Ashton-Tate, but I will keep
them seperate from one another, and divide this article into three
parts: news on FullWrite (I paid little attention to the Full Impact
part of the presentation, as I am not a spreadsheet user), a critique of
their presentation, and a small comment on my personal dealings with
Ashton-Tate.
NEWS ON FULLWRITE PROFESSIONAL:
The product manager for FullWrite, Marty Keaveny, was there to talk
about the product. She emphasized that FullWrite was an evolving
project that Ashton-Tate had long-range plans for, and that A-T had just
brought on one of the main Ann Arbor software engineers who was
responsible for much of FullWrite's design on board, along with a
programmer from Apple whose name I didn't recognize.
As to plans for FullWrite in the future, she said that first, there was
some sort of "maintentance release" planned for January for FullWrite
owners (I assume something like FWP 1.1), though no particulars of what
would be changed were mentioned. She then began to discuss a few of the
goals for FWP 2.0, which included:
* Running within 1 Megabyte of memory.
* Tables (good move -- Word 4.0 is going to get points for their tables)
* Easier use of sidebars -- dragging them around on the document was
mentioned (yeah!).
* Color
* Formula support (I was rather surprised by this)
* "Hot links" to Full Impact
* Automatic Revision system (neat!)
During a question and answer period later in the presentation, I asked
what improvements might be made to speed; they said they were "looking
into this." (Marty Keaveny later told me that the acutely slow
backspacing in FWP was a known bug; I was given the impression that
this, at least, would be fixed in the near future.) When I asked about
more powerful custom styles, with the ability to base styles on other
styles and indicate "Next Styles", an A-T represenative said "Well, we
don't want to be a clone of Word." I agreed that I didn't want
FullWrite to be a clone of Word, either, but that I did want move
control over custom styles.
When discussing a possible release date for FWP 4.0, Keaveny said it was
currently scheduled for the end of the second quarter of 1989.
Someone asked if the documentation would be improved with the next
release; they mentioned that an expanded book on FullWrite would be
available from book stores in December. Apparently they are taking
Microsoft's example in this category.
ASHTON-TATE'S PRESENTATION:
Ashton-Tate paid half of the tab for a very snazzy room and good eats,
and I was impressed and appreciative of the pampering, but I also think
that A-T could have put a bit more thought into their presentation.
They opened up with a five-minute slide show that reminded me of a
corporate presentation for a stockholders meeting -- photos of A-T's new
headquarters and plugs as to a list of new programmers they'd brought on
board. Plus a lot of repetious sloganizing -- "At Ashton-Tate, we're
putting the Magic back into the Machines." O-Kay.... The people around
me (mostly business users, graphic designers, etc.) were looking
impatient.
Secondly, the presenters (at least of FWP) could have been more
knowledgable of the product they were discussing. Keaveny seemed a bit
rusty during her demonstration of FullWrite, which was a surprise as she
is the Product Manager for the application. More importantly, I ended
up correcting the A-T represenatives about FullWrite during the Q&A
session, when one of them claimed that TIFF and EPS graphics could be
inserted into sidebars. I pointed out that EPS images could be used
with the "background" option in printing, but that they could not be
inserted into sidebars or picture elements.
On the plus side, Keaveny was very helpful in answering some of my
questions about FullWrite (finally figured out how to use floating
sidebars placed outside of the margins), taking time to call me several
times after the meeting with the information I was looking for, which I
appreciated greatly. And Ashton-Tate certainly didn't scrimp with door
prizes -- they raffled off several copies each of FWP and Full Impact.
Over-all, it was an interesting meeting, but in regards to FWP, things
seemed a bit raw.
A PERSONAL GRIPE
As some of you may remember, I collected a lot of your
comments/complaints/suggestions about FullWrite several months ago,
editted them and mailed them to the Ashton-Tate's manager for Macintosh
products. I haven't heard anything from them regarding the document
since then, so I re-editted it and handed it to Marty Keaveny at the
meeting, also mentioning that I would be interested in beta-testing FWP
2.0, since I used FWP 1.0 almost exclusively (I am thinking of switching
to MS Word 4.0 when it comes out, though...). A week or two ago, I was
called back and told that I should re-write my request for being a beta
tester for FullWrite on Fluke letterhead stationary -- and that I might
be ineligable because they were under the impression that I was
beta-testing Word 4.0.
Well, excuse me, but I fail to see why corporate stationary would have
any more impact on a beta testers' ability to test a product, especially
after he's taken the trouble to send in a prioritzed suggestion/bug list
in the first place. And why would testing Word have any impact on
testing FWP? (Especially since I only use MS Word when I have to.)
Since I would be testing FullWrite 2.0 on my own time, and not Fluke's
(though it is used by employees of the company), I've decided against
it; guess I'll just have to wait until FWP 2.0 comes out to get a glance
at it.
"Sure, you're right, it's easy to find flaws.
`Sure,' America says to the critic, `it's easy to
tear down, but you can't build up, can you? The
suffering and labor of the artist mean nothing to
you, do they Mr. Ian Shoales? You don't believe
in anything,' America screams, `except the sound
of your own voice!' Well, calm down, America.
Lighten up. Unclench those hardworking fists."
-- Ian Shoales
Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer
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